
With the Yanks officially signing Andruw Jones yesterday, I took a look at his numbers and began to wonder if he has date with Cooperstown in his future. He was an elite player with the bat during his prime, and his reputation as a CF is well known. At first glance, his offensive numbers seem to fall a bit short, but his outsized reputation as the games best defender at a premium defensive position made me think the modern defensive metrics and WAR that take defense into account might be more kind to him. Here’s his offensive numbers courtesy of BR:
Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards 1996 19 ATL NL 31 113 106 11 23 7 1 5 13 3 0 7 29 .217 .265 .443 .709 79 47 1 0 0 0 0 98 1997 20 ATL NL 153 467 399 60 92 18 1 18 70 20 11 56 107 .231 .329 .416 .745 93 166 11 4 5 3 2 *98/7 RoY-5 1998 21 ATL NL 159 631 582 89 158 33 8 31 90 27 4 40 129 .271 .321 .515 .836 116 300 10 4 1 4 8 *8 GG 1999 22 ATL NL 162 679 592 97 163 35 5 26 84 24 12 76 103 .275 .365 .483 .848 113 286 12 9 0 2 11 *8 GG 2000 23 ATL NL 161 729 656 122 199 36 6 36 104 21 6 59 100 .303 .366 .541 .907 125 355 12 9 0 5 0 *8 ASMVP-8GG 2001 24 ATL NL 161 693 625 104 157 25 2 34 104 11 4 56 142 .251 .312 .461 .772 94 288 10 3 0 9 3 *8 GG 2002 25 ATL NL 154 659 560 91 148 34 0 35 94 8 3 83 135 .264 .366 .513 .878 127 287 14 10 0 6 4 *8/D ASMVP-16GG 2003 26 ATL NL 156 659 595 101 165 28 2 36 116 4 3 53 125 .277 .338 .513 .851 117 305 18 5 0 6 2 *8 ASMVP-13GG 2004 27 ATL NL 154 646 570 85 149 34 4 29 91 6 6 71 147 .261 .345 .488 .833 112 278 24 3 0 2 9 *8 GG 2005 28 ATL NL 160 672 586 95 154 24 3 51 128 5 3 64 112 .263 .347 .575 .922 136 337 19 15 0 7 13 *8 ASMVP-2GGSS 2006 29 ATL NL 156 669 565 107 148 29 0 41 129 4 1 82 127 .262 .363 .531 .894 126 300 13 13 0 9 9 *8/D ASMVP-11GG 2007 30 ATL NL 154 659 572 83 127 27 2 26 94 5 2 70 138 .222 .311 .413 .724 87 236 16 8 0 9 4 *8 GG 2008 31 LAD NL 75 238 209 21 33 8 1 3 14 0 1 27 76 .158 .256 .249 .505 35 52 5 1 0 1 0 8/D 2009 32 TEX AL 82 331 281 43 60 18 0 17 43 5 1 45 72 .214 .323 .459 .782 100 129 7 2 0 3 3 D7/39 2010 33 CHW AL 107 328 278 41 64 12 1 19 48 9 2 45 73 .230 .341 .486 .827 119 135 15 3 0 2 0 987D 15 Seasons 15 Seasons 15 Seasons 15 Seasons 2025 8173 7176 1150 1840 368 36 407 1222 152 59 834 1615 .256 .338 .488 .826 111 3501 187 89 6 68 68 162 Game Avg. 162 Game Avg. 162 Game Avg. 162 Game Avg. 162 654 574 92 147 29 3 33 98 12 5 67 129 .256 .338 .488 .826 111 280 15 7 0 5 5
His career went south at such a young age (30) and his experience in Tinseltown was such a disaster that it’s easy to dismiss him. It’s safe to say the beat writers in Los Angeles won’t be voting for him anytime soon. But it’s important to remember he was playing and producing at an elite level from age 21. For a 9 year period from 1998-2006 he was widely recognized as the best defensive centerfielder in the game and hit 30+ HRs seven times. Had he been called up to the bigs later and done that from ages 24-33, people might view the arc of his career differently. But that shouldn’t matter. The numbers are what they are, and a 9 year stretch of dominance at your position puts you in the conversation for Cooperstown.
But the advanced metrics make the best case for Andruw. In terms of defense, his reputation was well founded. During the peak of his career he was the best defensive player in Baseball, period. From 1998-2006 he lead all fielders with a 19.8 UZR-150 and 97.2 UZR. The only player in the game that was even remotely close was Adrian Beltre (19.0/90.1) the next closest after him was Scott Rolen (16.9/71.9) both of whom played 3B. He averaged 6.75 WAR each season from 1998-2006 and has 70.5 total for his career (87th all time). To put that in some sort of context, that puts him ahead of HOF Hank Greenberg (68.2) sure fire HOFers Mike Piazza (68.2) Derek Jeter (70.4) and recent inductee Roberto Alomar (68.2). He is virtually identical to that of Mark McGwire (70.6) who is primarily being excluded for steroid allegations. He’s still just 33, so if he plays a few more years he should finish his career in the neighborhood of greats like Manny Ramirez (72.2) and HOFers Ernie Banks (74.1) Robin Yount (74.1) and ahead of all time greats Duke Snider (71.7) and Yogi Berra (71.4). Though I would be the first to admit there are many other non-HOF names that he is bunched in with once you get past the top 60 WAR players.
BRs black ink/grey ink Hall of Fame Monitor has him falling a bit short, but that measure only looks at batting. When you add his outstanding defense at a premium position, it may put him over the top. Andruw looks like the type of candidate who will have to take time to build a case. He’s not a no-brainer, and voters will have to be comfortable with advanced fielding metrics for his candidacy to build steam. Maybe he’ll be the next Bert Blyleven, and someone like Rich Lederer will take up his cause by promoting UZR-150 data along with his offense. Personally I’m on the fence with Andruw, but he’s close enough where I’m listening intently to any who want to make his case.

The case for Andruw will be unreal glove, enough offense. Similar to that of Ozzie Smith. But Ozzie was an exceptionally popular player, and the BWAA writers just couldn’t wait to elect their buddy Ozzie. Andruw seems to be a more quiet guy, and while stuff like this shouldn’t matter it unfortunately does. If I had to guess, he gets in after a few years of eligibility and guys like Smoltz, Maddux and Glavine are already inducted and beating the drum for his case. Chipper probably makes it as well, in a similar fashion. Steve S.(Quote)
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I have steroid suspicions on Jones based on how quickly and early his career fell off a cliff and while they may not be warranted I believe if I have questions about it so will the writers and as we saw with Bagwell that is all they need to keep you out. T.O. Chris(Quote)
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Steve S. Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 8:30 am
There will need to be something more tangible than speculation to keep him out. In any case, his case is as much about his glove as his bat. Steve S.(Quote)
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T.O. Chris Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 6:22 pm
What is tangible about the speculation surrounding Bagwell? He was friends with a steroid user? T.O. Chris(Quote)
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no way is andru jones a hall of famer. if he has a shot cecil fielder has a shot. josh(Quote)
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Alex Taffet Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 11:13 am
Cecil Fielder??? Fielder had an .827 OPS and played first base, poorly. Andruw Jones had a better OPS, and played centerfield as well as anybody since Willie Mays. If you are into advanced metrics, Fielder falls about 50 WAR short of Jones. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. Alex Taffet(Quote)
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Brent Reply:
January 21st, 2011 at 11:20 am
What do you make that thought on? Brent(Quote)
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