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Examining Alex

Posted by Matt Imbrogno at 11:00 am Add comments
Jul 082010

According to Buster Olney (h/t RAB), the Yankees are looking for someone who can play third while adding punch. Olney adds that they’re looking for a veteran, like Ty Wigginton.

Ty currently sports a .344 wOBA for the Orioles and was just named to the All-Star team. It’s worth noting, though, that his wOBA has fallen quite a bit each month as the season has progressed. He’s definitely coming back to earth towards that .337 career wOBA. His fielding at third has also been downright awful at third, with a career -16.6 UZR/150.

What’s attractive about Wigginton, though, is his power. He has a career .452 SLG and .183 IsoP. He’s also not an automatic out (.329 OBP, 8.7 BB%). So, he can fake third–and the other positions–and hit for a little pop, which the Yankees could use. As a veteran on the last place Orioles, he could come with the best price tag of the bunch as well. In terms of probability, I think it’s highest for TW to join the Yankees. But, I’d like to take a look at another possible trade candidate: Kansas City’s Alex Gordon.

Gordon started this season poorly and was sent to the minors by the Royals to learn to play the outfield in an attempt to get some more value out of him. I think as a former #1 organizational prospect, Gordon’s still got some upside left and he’s a good guy for the Yankees to look at.

His wOBA is a “meh” .329, but he’s got a .163 career IsoP as well as a 9.6% walk rate so, like Wigginton, he has some pop and won’t just be an auto-out. His fielding isn’t spectacular, a -4.2 raw UZR in his time at third with KC, but it’s not unacceptable. It would appear that Gordon fits the Yankees’ bill as well.

The only roadblock I could see here would be the price. Since Gordon just turned 26 this past February, he’s still relatively young with some upside left. I’d imagine the Royals would ask for a little more than the Orioles would for Wigginton, but Cashman is a shrewd negotiator and could get Dayton Moore to go for something lesser since Gordon’s value is down. We’ve seen him do that before (see: Swisher, Nick; trade of) and I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw him do it again.

13 Responses to “Examining Alex”

  1. Quick question – where does Gordon play in 2011?  (Quote)

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    classicsteve Reply:

    Don’t think Royals would give up on Gordon yet but he could play some third as A- Rod turns 36, some back- up first and, this is a projection based on his SB #s, some left much like Russo did earlier in the year, as well as DH if he produces offensively. IMO a much better piece for the bench than a lot of which we have seen this year. It is entirely possible that with reduced expectations and being surrounded by accomplished professionals that Gordon could begin to fulfill some of the potential that had him drafted ahead of Zimmerman, Braun, Tulo, McCutchen and Bruce among others in 2005. Definitely worth a phone call.  (Quote)

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  2. I like the idea of bringing Gordon in. In response to Stephen R., I think if he could get some outfield innings under his belt in winter ball somewhere he could be a viable 4th outfielder in 2011. Or if he performs well in the last couple months of the season, he could be great trade bait if the Yankees want to pursue a starter via trade. Also, I remember hearing stories of how him and Joba were good friends growing up and played on the same baseball teams for quite a while before they were at Nebraska. Could be a great trade for the Yankees.  (Quote)

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  3. both guys stink..i wouldn’t give a bag of balls for the two of them..we have a farm system…miranda is crushing the ball lately..montero is close ..free agency is months away /…forget rethreads..gordon has a very good chance of being a roid guy..and to put him with joba is like bringing melky back gordon may be a great drinking partner for joba..look within right now  (Quote)

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    Matt Imbrogno Reply:

    Juan Miranda: Cannot play 3B.
    Jesus Montero; Cannot play 3B, shouldn’t be in the Majors.

    And where in the hell do you get that about Gordon? Not only is that unfounded, it’s completely uncalled for.  (Quote)

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    bornwithpinstripes Reply:

    Matt..in todays steroid era plenty of foundation is around.. and this site is about opinions also..it is mine..he will have a negative impact on joba.. and why do we need a third baseman this year or next..where is arod going…is posada arod jeter all going to be dh at the same time for the next few years.. i think pena does a great job filling in for the infielders..you would trade up for more .240 hitters…good luck with grandy also..i can see how he hits lefties now.. we need a right handed bat that can hit, no matter DH or any position.. miranda is left…i think he will hit lefties better than the two has beens mentioned.. montero is not 100% ready,i agree but again i would give him a shot before trading our farm for bums..again matt you have your opinions and the rest of the world has theirs..lay off the caffiene  (Quote)

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    Stephen R. Reply:

    Dude, try using punctuation properly. It’s nearly impossible to evaluate your opinion when its nothing more than a giant run-on sentence filled with ellipses. Try using the ellipsis’ other friends: the period, the comma and/or the semi-colon. Please.  (Quote)

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    bornwithpinstripes Reply:

    i didn’t graduate high school…and i speak brooklynees… i say tree not three..so try and follow professor. is that what they are called ellipsis, see i used a comma, you helped me already.thanks dude….is it really impossible for you to follow…i will write slower.. now stephen, if you figured out what typed, what side of the commentary are you with .thanks dude  (Quote)

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    Stephen R. Reply:

    Lol. I have to say, that’s a decent reply.

    I’m on both sides of the commentary:

    1. On one hand, I dont think Gordon is a good fit. There’s no obvious position for him (and I’m never a fan of the “put him in the OF!” idea), and he’s likely to be expensive in a trade. I love his prospect profile, but I can’t see the Yankees dealing for him.

    2. On the other hand, it’s unfair to call him a likely steroider or nothing more than a drinking partner for Joba. That’s just out of line.  (Quote)

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    bornwithpinstripes Reply:

    See,we can both get a laugh.. Stephen, i worry about trades like mondesi, bettimet, mike stanley.. tartabull..or guys like shelly duncan..i know i’m missing a lot of laughable names that we have traded for in the past..i do not like trading talent.farm system for below average fill ins and hope they get better here..randy winn was a hugh mistake, trading ajax without giving the kid a shot.i was hyped up from last year waiting for that kid to start in the outfield for us this year..we gave up alot for grandy..nice guy.bit is a part time player.. does he have real trade value at the end of the year.. my point is joba has issues..why bring a home town crony in now, why take a chance,,if arods contract was up now, do you think anyone would give him 30mil a year for ten years, or 20 mil for the same?this guy may never hit 30 homers again..look at all these guys,most are done hafner et. al. pitchers eras are down and hitters are not having the years they had in the past, except for a few.. thats what i see..i don’t know the #s, hey maybe that can be a good thread. Matt seems a numbers guy..how about it Matt any #s we can compare to years past..ML on a whole.. again..i did not say i know for a fact..i look at guys from a different angle now..gordon looked great his first year..i think him and gload crushed the ball VS us a few years back.. looked like a future all star for year to come..then the fall off..makes me think he had help  (Quote)

    Matt Imbrogno Reply:

    1. Yes it is your opinion but it is one that’s completely unfounded. Just because a lot of guys did steroids doesn’t mean everyone did. As far as I know, Gordon has never been linked to steroids, even tenuously. What you’re doing is unnecessary and, frankly, irresponsible.

    2. Gordon and Joba were good friends; why would Gordon be a bad influence on him?

    3. He wouldn’t be the full time third baseman, obviously, and if you read the Olney Tweet that was linked, as well as the RAB article, you’d see that the Yankees are looking for a guy who can play 3B who also has a little pop; Gordon fits that bill.

    4. Who suggested trading the farm for bums? You’re totally putting words in my mouth. I said we should consider Gordon an option, not trade the farm for him. In fact, I disagree w/scout below and wouldn’t even trade Laird for Gordon.  (Quote)

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    bornwithpinstripes Reply:

    thanks for getting back Matt.gordon was a pretty built guy, came on the scene and was an impact..then has these drops, injuries.. and i think 70% of baseball did roids, even the religious all american family man. andy pettitte, who was a great blow to me. nobody is above being looked at.let alone alex gordon..i am not doing anything to the guy, i don’t control his future..his pay check or ant other part of his life, so what am i doing to him..maybe you think puljos has always been clean..it may seem like i am painting everyone with the same brush, but if you are upset about i won’t elude to it with alex anymore ,but if he did use roids..he is not that player who was ahead of the other guys in the draft..all his #s would be false..next point, joba i belive has issues beyond the white lines, i feel joba needs to be completely focused on baseball, maybe alex was a drinking buddy or party guy with him..i was outspoken for several years about splitting up melky from cano..i was happy to see melky go. i also wish melky good fortune..nice kid bad for cano..off season they can go to the D.R..and go crazy. point three ..how many games do we need to have a guy play third..and what does arod do..sit DH.. what do you do with posada ,sit him.. he can’t catch any more, the guy is fragile..and is terrible behind the plate..we have him next year also..so how many games does arod not play this year and next.. again for 10 15 games a year i’ll take pena..and give nobody up.. hey Matt one thing we agree on ,never would trade laird for a.250 hitter that sits on the bench..i did not put words in your mouth..are the royals going to give gordon up for nobody.. i would give non of the kids up for that fill in type position..we lost coke and jackson and the other kid pitcher for grandy.. i guy they knew could not hit lefties.. if we need an everyday big RHed bat then look at trades…see scout thought with me, your opinion to trade off youth… so you agree with me gordon is not worth trading for, even for laird.. your opinion Matt to me is important, thats the way i can keep an open mind and learn from others..so even though we don’t agree i value your opinion along with the others on this site.  (Quote)

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  4. The descriptions of Gordon and what role he would fill sound a lot like Brandon Laird next year or the year after. If the Yankees had the former, the latter would have no possible place to play for them. Since the need is for help now, perhaps the Royals would accept Laird in a swap.  (Quote)

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