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Every so often, a characterization of a player made by a handful of fans or media members takes on a life of its own, spreading with reckless abandon until most fans believe that unsupported conclusions are incontrovertibly true. That is how you end up with people claiming that Jesus Montero has a bad attitude, or believing that nobody but the ballboy wants to throw to Jorge Posada. Two of my least favorite chestnuts involve Joba Chamberlain’s work ethic and A-Rod’s general impact in the clubhouse. Joba has constantly been assailed from all corners for being lazy and entitled, as people often throw the “too much success too soon” line in his direction. Regarding Alex, the old line about him was that having him in the clubhouse created a 24+1 attitude, and that he only looked out for himself.

Today, a handful of stories dispelled these myths. On Joba, we have Joel Sherman:

What is not possible, at least for now, is sending Chamberlain to the minors for two major reasons: 1) The Yanks feel it would be a terrible message to bust somebody from main set-up man all the way to Scranton in one move, so they will try to fix him outside the eighth inning and 2) They do not believe Chamberlain is failing because of an attitude problem. Yankee officials actually consider Chamberlain a hard worker. In other words they are not looking at this how they viewed a situation with Melky Cabrera in 2008. That season the Yanks thought Cabrera had become lazy and that was a factor in his struggles, so they did demote him in mid-August to Triple-A.

Will all the claims that Joba is just a fat entitled kid coasting on his success in 2007 disappear? Of course not. But they should, because the Yankees know a lot more about Joba’s work ethic than you and I do. My advice: the next time you find yourself reaching for the “entitled” and “lazy” and “ten cent head” bullcrap, just stop.

In regards to A-Rod, Ben Reiter at SI had some fantastic quotes:

“I can only speak for the last two years, but he’s been a great teammate,” says CC Sabathia, who spent one of his first days as a Yankee two years ago standing off to the side in one of his trademark many-XL t-shirts, watching his new teammate conduct his PED-use-admitting press conference, and probably wondering what he’d gotten himself into. “I know he cares a lot about the younger guys, teaching them and talking to them. Him and [Robinson] Cano are really close — he’s always talking to him. He tells guys what they need to be told, but he doesn’t put himself out there and draw attention to it.”

Last October, when I asked catcher Francisco Cervelli which of his teammates had most helped him transition from a .233-hitting minor leaguer to a rookie big leaguer who batted .298 and seamlessly filled in for an injured Jorge Posada, his answer was as quick as it was surprising. “A-Rod,” he said. “He helps me with everything — everything. I learn so many things from him, calling the game, offensively, defensively, game situations, everything. He’s the man. Maybe he saw at the beginning that I want to work, I want to play, and he wanted to help me. I feel lucky to have him.”

Chad Jennings added the following:

Several weeks ago, Andy Pettitte was talking about Alex Rodriguez and said this: “He can tell me almost every pitch I’ve thrown throughout the course of a game… He’s always in the game. His head’s up. He’s always prepared. That’s why he’s such a great player.”

Last night, Rodriguez said this: “I chased in the first inning, a slider down, but Westbrook had good stuff. He had us off balance all day. With the exception of a 3-2 fastball away to Jorge, and I think it was a 1-0 changeup to Granderson, he didn’t make many mistakes.”

Alex is far from perfect, and I am sure that there are times that he is a distraction. But on balance, he seems to be a very good teammate and, from the quotes in the Reiter piece, it is clear that he has become a leader and example for younger players. So what do we have in A-Rod? A leader who is always prepared and has his head in the game. Next time someone rips on Alex for being a constant distraction and a clubhouse issue, point out these quotes. The public perception of Alex as entirely selfish and self-centered is just plain wrong.

Though it wasn’t high scoring, last night’s game was quite exciting. Here’s what I was thinking during and after the game.

–I really liked the way Javy Vazquez pitched last night. I thought he mixed his pitches well and his breaking stuff had good movement. The 7th inning at bat versus Travis Hafner. Despite missing badly on the first pitch and then throwing ball two going down 2-0, Vazquez battled back and struck Hafner out swinging on a well placed fastball. He may not have gotten fantastic run support last night, but Javy pitched well nonetheless.

–I know it’s just four at bats, but Derek Jeter did not look good last night. Three groundouts and a strikeout…but, to be fair no one was really putting good swings on Westbrook last night.

–Curtis Granderson’s homer was nice to watch. He absolutely crushed that ball for his third homer in two games and hopefully, he’s turned a corner and will stay hot. Since getting home from the Oakland and Seattle trip, Granderson’s got a .314/.366/.583/.949. On a non-baseball note, I thoroughly enjoy listening to Curtis speak to a reporter after games. He’s incredibly well spoken and it’s beyond refreshing to hear an athlete have a conversation not riddled with cliches and “Uh…um…uh…um…”

–During the course of the game, MLBTR informed us that the Yankees are trying to move Chan Ho Park. If they do trade Park, don’t expect anything more than a fringy prospect in exchange.

–Pregame, we also learned that Dustin Moseley will start in place of Sergio Mitre. It may not be a huge improvement, but I’m glad Mitre won’t be starting. Still, I’m a bit surprised that they won’t give Mitre a second shot. If Moseley’s start doesn’t go well, I think we’ll see the return of Ivan Nova to the Majors. Some may ask why doesn’t that happen now, but I can see the logic in giving someone already on the 25 man the shot first. Moseley’s just young enough and has pitched just not poorly enough to get the benefit of the doubt for at least one start. If he can’t handle it, then maybe you think about losing him and bringing up Nova.

Yesterday morning, there was a slew of Yankee trade news involving Joakim Soria, Adam Dunn, and Ted Lilly. Allow me to comment…

1. If it is true that the Yankees dangled Jesus Montero for Soria, then I’m none too happy. Using Montero as trade bait for a guy like Cliff Lee is understandable. Doing so for a reliever, even if they want to make Soria a starter as he was in Mexico, is not something the Yankees should be doing. While Soria is a difference maker out of the bullpen, that’s not worth trading a stud hitting prospect like Montero. That said, I’d still like to see if the Yankees could get a hold of Soria without having to give up Montero or fellow catching prospect Austin Romine. Granted, the chances of that are ridiculously small. If the Yankees and Royals can’t match up in the next day or two, they should just cut the cord.

2. Not surprisingly, the Yankees have found the cost for Adam Dunn “prohibitive.” My dream is slowly, slowly dying. But, at the end of the day, that’s probably a good thing. I’d love Dunn as the Yankees’ DH and he would be a difference maker with the bat, but the Nationals are apparently playing very hard ball with Dunn. I want Dunn, but I don’t want to pay through the nose for a rental.

3. As I thought, the Yankees aren’t in on Oswalt. However, this Ted Lilly rumor just doesn’t want to die. Heyman says the Yankees like Lilly. Well, sure they do. He’s a solid pitcher who’s apparently available, but I don’t think he’s a difference maker like Cliff Lee nor does he have the youth/upside/friendly contract of Dan Haren.

As for the Haren package consisting of Zach McAllister and Ivan Nova with two prospects, I’m totally cool with that. Like Steve wrote yesterday, I don’t think the Diamondbacks did as well as they could have in their trade of Dan Haren and may’ve done better if they did indeed trade with the Yankees. Of course, that depends on who the other two prospects were. I would’ve had little trouble adding Joba Chamberlain to the package, though in that case I would’ve wanted to take out one of Z-Mac or Nova. This may come as a surprise considering I’ve been very supportive of Joba over the last three seasons, but if he’s not going to start for the Yankees, the most value he could bring to the team is via trade.

Jul 272010

In case you missed last night’s post game (and pregame) Joe Girardi made clear that he’s going to going with match ups for the 8th inning for the foreseeable future. That’s a nice way of saying Joba has been demoted. Here’s the video where he discusses last night’s 8th and his thought process behind it. I transcribed the interview:

Kim Jones-”We talked about the 8th before the game, this was obviously a tight game, Robertson/Logan there, what goes into that?”

Joe Girardi-”Well I knew I was going to go to Logan for Choo, and Cabrera’s had some success off of Javy, even though he did a good job on him tonight. So I thought I would go to Robbie for just one hitter, and then go to Boone, and it worked out.”

(later)

Sweeney Murti-”Joe, Joba’s throwing the ball the way you expect him to throw the ball, do you go with match ups there?”

Joe Girardi-”I might. Choo is so dangerous against Right handers. So I might, but it’s just what I decided to do today.”

Mark Fiensand-“Joe, before the game you said that in the 8th inning you would lean towards Joba. Is this a match ups thing going forward?”

Joe Girardi-”I’m going to do both, I’m going to do both. I just wanted to get Robbie for one hitter, I just wanted him to get Cabrera. Then I knew I was going to the Lefty even though their young catcher has had a lot of  success in his career off of Lefties, he’s struggled a little bit up here and we haven’t seen a ton of him I was possibly going to let Booney face him as well”

Mark Fiensand-”So Logan was in there for the rest of the inning?”

Joe Girardi-”Yeah, or I had Mo if I needed him”

(unknown)-”Joe, If you were leaning toward Joba for the 8th inning, why did you go to Robbie for the 8th?”

Joe Girardi-”Because I liked the match up. I look at the charts, I look at everything and I liked the match up.”

Having an 8th inning guy means that you go to him in the 8th (or earlier) regardless of match ups. What Joe is telling us is he doesn’t have one, so he’s going to mix and match going forward. The fact that he brought this up in the pregame, before the game even took place or any situations arose, shows just how set in stone this is. Joba’s officially buried in the bullpen. Expect to see him used in lower leverage spots backed up by relievers other than Mo going forward.

This shouldn’t come as much surprise, given the way he’s pitched. A recent piece in the NY Post details just how ugly his numbers have been of late, at a time when he needed to improve in order to keep his job-

In his last five games, totaling six innings, Chamberlain has surrendered 12 hits, eight earned runs and four walks.

In his last 15 appearances dating to June 13, he has had only one clean outing in which he didn’t allow a hit or walk.

From that same article, Joe gave a hint of how little faith he has in Joba after his last performance against the Royals:

Yankee manager Joe Girardi, after watching Chamberlain surrender a walk and then a Scott Podsednik home run to turn a comfortable 7-3 Yankees lead into a 7-5 fret, admitted he was ready to go to David Robertson.

“I was prepared to bring him in if Joba gave up another base-runner,” Girardi said.

It’s over. Saying that you are backing up your 8th inning guy with your 7th inning guy tells me that their roles have been reversed. Joba would need to start absolutely dominating to regain Joe’s trust. With just 2 months left in the season, time is running out and his opportunities to regain that trust will be fewer and further between.

At this stage, I would either trade him or send him down to AAA and let him work as a starter again, either this year or next. I know that’s jerking him around some more, so maybe you tell him to close games for Scranton this year and prepare as a Starter for next year. The whole point of Joba the reliever was to groom him as an heir to Mariano Rivera, to be the guy you go to when all Hell breaks loose. He couldn’t even hold down the role where he has Mo backing him up, so it would be a long road back for him to even be considered as a future Closer ever again. The Yanks have some big decisions to make with him, but as of now he’s just another bad middle reliever. Joba’s had quite the ride in this town, from the hottest pitcher on the planet, to an endless topic of conversation. But now he’s on the edge of being irrelevant, which I must admit was the last thing I thought would ever happen with him.

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