Comments on: Silva: Is Joba Sidney Ponson? http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700 The Blog Formerly Known As The Yankee Universe Wed, 17 Mar 2010 03:19:52 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8481 The other Chris H Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:00:11 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8481 Yes but without control you have nothing! Broxton is a great closer but you have seemed to missed the point! When Broxton or any pitcher throws down and away, up and in, etc... then he is going to be effective but any pitch no matter how fast it is left in the middle of the plate can be hit! The point is you need control no matter what kind of stuff you have, if you throw 100 it will help you get away with more mistakes than those who don't but you will still get hit. Yes but without control you have nothing!

Broxton is a great closer but you have seemed to missed the point! When Broxton or any pitcher throws down and away, up and in, etc… then he is going to be effective but any pitch no matter how fast it is left in the middle of the plate can be hit!

The point is you need control no matter what kind of stuff you have, if you throw 100 it will help you get away with more mistakes than those who don’t but you will still get hit.

]]> By: Daveinmd http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8480 Daveinmd Wed, 02 Dec 2009 06:05:36 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8480 Yet Broxton was a very good reliever for the Dodgers all year and mainly because of how hard he throws. Yet Broxton was a very good reliever for the Dodgers all year and mainly because of how hard he throws.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8479 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:00:17 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8479 <blockquote cite="comment-30394"> <strong><a href="#comment-30394" rel="nofollow">MJ</a></strong>: Meh…throwing 98 but never getting it in the strikezone seems worthless to me.Similarly, throwing 98 right down the middle seems equally worthless.If you can’t locate, all the velocity in the world makes no difference.   </blockquote> If you want a perfect example of this just look at how the Dodgers lost the final game to the Phillies... A Jonathan Broxton fastball at 101 MPH hit back up the middle for a game winning double.

MJ: Meh…throwing 98 but never getting it in the strikezone seems worthless to me.Similarly, throwing 98 right down the middle seems equally worthless.If you can’t locate, all the velocity in the world makes no difference.  

If you want a perfect example of this just look at how the Dodgers lost the final game to the Phillies… A Jonathan Broxton fastball at 101 MPH hit back up the middle for a game winning double.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8478 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:59:08 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8478 Well Joba had no control or velocity this year... and for Joba velocity is important because of his slider, he needs to create enough differential between the two pitches to make sure guys can't wait back for the slider because the fastball is only 2 or 3 MPH harder. An interesting stat that shows how good Joba was at one time... In 08 while he was starting he was in the top 5 for fastball to changeup speed variation... He had a little under 11 MPH difference in his fastball and change, losing that really hurt him this year. Well Joba had no control or velocity this year… and for Joba velocity is important because of his slider, he needs to create enough differential between the two pitches to make sure guys can’t wait back for the slider because the fastball is only 2 or 3 MPH harder.

An interesting stat that shows how good Joba was at one time… In 08 while he was starting he was in the top 5 for fastball to changeup speed variation… He had a little under 11 MPH difference in his fastball and change, losing that really hurt him this year.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8477 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:56:21 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8477 I read scouting reports on Joba when he came out and people did compare him to being "another Ponson" so maybe he just ran with those old reports in order to make his own misinformed point. I read scouting reports on Joba when he came out and people did compare him to being “another Ponson” so maybe he just ran with those old reports in order to make his own misinformed point.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8476 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:54:47 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8476 Johnny Damon and Nick Swisher drink like 4 or 5 red bulls a game... Ever see Swish holding one up after a HR? Johnny Damon and Nick Swisher drink like 4 or 5 red bulls a game… Ever see Swish holding one up after a HR?

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8475 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:54:00 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8475 He needs to show he cares more about being great because at times last year it almost looked like struggling didn't bother him... Some of his post game interviews were a little odd as well with his answers Vs reality. He needs to show he cares more about being great because at times last year it almost looked like struggling didn’t bother him… Some of his post game interviews were a little odd as well with his answers Vs reality.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8474 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:52:29 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8474 Joba wasn't dominate for over a year as a starter and he wasn't dominate as a starter in the first or 2nd half of this year and in fact his 3.6 ERA or so at the time he started having his innings fuxed with was actually a lot of luck and his peripheral numbers showed that. I think Joba can still be great but it boils down to hard work and whether or not he really wants it bad enough... or is just being in the MLB enough. Joba wasn’t dominate for over a year as a starter and he wasn’t dominate as a starter in the first or 2nd half of this year and in fact his 3.6 ERA or so at the time he started having his innings fuxed with was actually a lot of luck and his peripheral numbers showed that.

I think Joba can still be great but it boils down to hard work and whether or not he really wants it bad enough… or is just being in the MLB enough.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8473 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:49:41 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8473 I hope he puts the work in Ranger because I agree completely! He came into last year pretty much knowing he couldn't be sent down and being completely secure in his rotation spot no matter how good or bad he was and with the way the year ended up with his pitch selection and what not it almost seemed as if he was disinterested in putting in the work to be great. I hope he puts the work in Ranger because I agree completely! He came into last year pretty much knowing he couldn’t be sent down and being completely secure in his rotation spot no matter how good or bad he was and with the way the year ended up with his pitch selection and what not it almost seemed as if he was disinterested in putting in the work to be great.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/12/silva-is-joba-sidney-ponson-11700/comment-page-1#comment-8472 The other Chris H Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:47:29 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=11700#comment-8472 Exactly, he was throwing 96 as a starter before... Ben do you think he was a reliever in the minors? Did you not see him start in 08? Exactly, he was throwing 96 as a starter before… Ben do you think he was a reliever in the minors? Did you not see him start in 08?

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