Comments on: Red Sox Hot For Halladay, and What It Means For The Yankees http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428 The Blog Formerly Known As The Yankee Universe Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:18:32 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8310 The other Chris H Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:33:05 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8310 I like Johnson but it doesn't worry you the Marlins were only willing to go 3 years> If they were just being cheap they could have been cheap with 4 year, to me that says they don't believe in his health. Hughes, Jackson and probably 2 more prospects would possibly come close unless they follow the guidline of the Beckett trade in which case they would want Montero... I would also say any deal that has Hughes and Jackson in it better not include Romine because at that point you are giving up to many top position prospects. I like Johnson but it doesn’t worry you the Marlins were only willing to go 3 years> If they were just being cheap they could have been cheap with 4 year, to me that says they don’t believe in his health.

Hughes, Jackson and probably 2 more prospects would possibly come close unless they follow the guidline of the Beckett trade in which case they would want Montero…

I would also say any deal that has Hughes and Jackson in it better not include Romine because at that point you are giving up to many top position prospects.

]]> By: The New Yanks http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8309 The New Yanks Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:24:36 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8309 I was thinking that Hughes and Jackson might get it done. I know that messes up the rotations I had, didn't really think that one through. I just feel like there may be a chance to steal Johnson because it sounds (who knows) that contract negotiations have not been going well for Florida. I like the Sheets too. But if there is a chance to land Johnson and keep either Joba or Phil, I’d be all over it. But if he can’t be had for the right price, Sheets looks like a hot girl on crutches. I was thinking that Hughes and Jackson might get it done. I know that messes up the rotations I had, didn’t really think that one through. I just feel like there may be a chance to steal Johnson because it sounds (who knows) that contract negotiations have not been going well for Florida. I like the Sheets too. But if there is a chance to land Johnson and keep either Joba or Phil, I’d be all over it. But if he can’t be had for the right price, Sheets looks like a hot girl on crutches.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8308 The other Chris H Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:24:59 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8308 I agree jeremy pretty much everything you said hits the nail on the head... We don't need an ace, if anything we would do best by making smaller 1 year deals with guys like Sheets or making smart trades for guys like Edwin Jackson... BEtter options are out there than trading for Halladay or signing Lackey. I agree jeremy pretty much everything you said hits the nail on the head… We don’t need an ace, if anything we would do best by making smaller 1 year deals with guys like Sheets or making smart trades for guys like Edwin Jackson… BEtter options are out there than trading for Halladay or signing Lackey.

]]> By: jeremy http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8307 jeremy Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:24:41 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8307 nyy proved they could win the w.s. w/o doc right? remember the talk about getting him in july? how it would guarantee winning the w.s. well fyi they won the w.s. WITHOUT him!!! dont give up valuable pieces of your team and future for a guy that isnt absolutely nessasary. yes, it would be awesome to see him, cc, aj, and whoever else (hopefully andy too) but i dont feel they NEED him since they've got an ace in cc. boston would be a ton better with doc, but they've got bigger problems than their rotation. paplebum isnt as good as he's given credit for, their lineup sucks against good young pitching, they need a ss and the list goes on for their NEEDS. nyy doesnt have those types of NEEDS. yes, upgrades could/would be nice like for potential starters or lf but they arent as daunting as bostons right? if you wanna think about giving up montero, think verlander or hernandez (young, good, nasty) not a 33 year old who COULD be a f.a. next year comments? nyy proved they could win the w.s. w/o doc right? remember the talk about getting him in july? how it would guarantee winning the w.s. well fyi they won the w.s. WITHOUT him!!! dont give up valuable pieces of your team and future for a guy that isnt absolutely nessasary. yes, it would be awesome to see him, cc, aj, and whoever else (hopefully andy too) but i dont feel they NEED him since they’ve got an ace in cc. boston would be a ton better with doc, but they’ve got bigger problems than their rotation. paplebum isnt as good as he’s given credit for, their lineup sucks against good young pitching, they need a ss and the list goes on for their NEEDS. nyy doesnt have those types of NEEDS. yes, upgrades could/would be nice like for potential starters or lf but they arent as daunting as bostons right? if you wanna think about giving up montero, think verlander or hernandez (young, good, nasty) not a 33 year old who COULD be a f.a. next year comments?

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8306 The other Chris H Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:25:10 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8306 I have a roommate who is a Red Sox fan and I loved throwing it in his face... I can't imagine being able to do the same to a town! I have a roommate who is a Red Sox fan and I loved throwing it in his face… I can’t imagine being able to do the same to a town!

]]> By: Moshe Mandel http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8305 Moshe Mandel Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:00:06 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8305 I'm here for another year and a half, finishing law school. Gotta tell you, it was fun to be here when the Yanks won the World Series. I’m here for another year and a half, finishing law school. Gotta tell you, it was fun to be here when the Yanks won the World Series.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8304 The other Chris H Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:21:19 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8304 <blockquote cite="comment-29737"> <strong><a href="#comment-29737" rel="nofollow">The New Yanks</a></strong>: Trade Jackson and others for Josh Johnson.Let Phil build on the 84 innings he pitched last year and have him spend this season in Scranton (maybe call him up for some spot starts or bull pen depth in Sept).Sign Andy to a 1 year deal. 2010 Rotation:CC, Johnson, AJ, Andy, and Joba(Phil and Kennedy as plan Bs) 2011 Rotation:CC, Johnson, AJ, Joba, and Phil.(Kennedy and McCalister) With that rotation, I don’t care if Boston gets Lackey and/or Halladay.The Yankee rotation will be better, younger and cheaper.That would even allow room for the Yanks to go after Holliday if they wanted. You can chase the same girl as the rest of the guys in the bar.I’m going home w/ all three of her friends.   </blockquote> How do you think you get Josh Johnson for Austin Jackson? Who are you trading? You can't just say Jackson and others when you don't have enough pieces to get the job done... A.Jackson, A.Romine, McAllister, Robertson,....? That isn't going to get the job done... In fact I doubt they would do a trade for less than Joba and Hughes+ or Montero+ they have no incentive to trade their ace starting pitcher for a CFer when they already have Cameron Maybin... Does no one remember Maybin? He is going to start in CF next year and projects to be as good as Jackson or better so why would they make a trade around a CFer? How would it allow you to get Holliday? Josh Johnson should probably be signed to an extension upon the trade so you can buy out his arbitration years and make sure he doesn't hit the FA market after giving up prospects for him and in doing so you will be spending the Holliday money. You can try and hook up with the lesbian chick at the bar that will never happen I'm going to have some more drinks and make one of these others look better... (Ben Sheets).

The New Yanks: Trade Jackson and others for Josh Johnson.Let Phil build on the 84 innings he pitched last year and have him spend this season in Scranton (maybe call him up for some spot starts or bull pen depth in Sept).Sign Andy to a 1 year deal.
2010 Rotation:CC, Johnson, AJ, Andy, and Joba(Phil and Kennedy as plan Bs)
2011 Rotation:CC, Johnson, AJ, Joba, and Phil.(Kennedy and McCalister)
With that rotation, I don’t care if Boston gets Lackey and/or Halladay.The Yankee rotation will be better, younger and cheaper.That would even allow room for the Yanks to go after Holliday if they wanted.
You can chase the same girl as the rest of the guys in the bar.I’m going home w/ all three of her friends.  

How do you think you get Josh Johnson for Austin Jackson? Who are you trading? You can’t just say Jackson and others when you don’t have enough pieces to get the job done…

A.Jackson, A.Romine, McAllister, Robertson,….? That isn’t going to get the job done… In fact I doubt they would do a trade for less than Joba and Hughes+ or Montero+ they have no incentive to trade their ace starting pitcher for a CFer when they already have Cameron Maybin… Does no one remember Maybin? He is going to start in CF next year and projects to be as good as Jackson or better so why would they make a trade around a CFer?

How would it allow you to get Holliday? Josh Johnson should probably be signed to an extension upon the trade so you can buy out his arbitration years and make sure he doesn’t hit the FA market after giving up prospects for him and in doing so you will be spending the Holliday money.

You can try and hook up with the lesbian chick at the bar that will never happen I’m going to have some more drinks and make one of these others look better… (Ben Sheets).

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8303 The other Chris H Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:52:17 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8303 Montero/Chamberlain would be a bargain if you were adding the 27-32 year old Roy Halladay but you aren't you are adding the 33-40 year old Roy Halladay and having to pay so to do so, it makes no sense to trade top level prospects for a 33 year old pitcher. Montero/Chamberlain would be a bargain if you were adding the 27-32 year old Roy Halladay but you aren’t you are adding the 33-40 year old Roy Halladay and having to pay so to do so, it makes no sense to trade top level prospects for a 33 year old pitcher.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8302 The other Chris H Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:50:43 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8302 I have never gotten the idea of blocking other clubs... Since when did that help anyone win a WS? Is the goal to make sure the Yankees win the world series next year or to prevent the Red Sox from doing it? Who cares if they get Halladay and then have to overpay him next year... Josh Beckett is a free agent next year as well so they have to ante up two huge contracts to two of their top 3 pitchers knowing that Lester needs a new contract after 2014. We still have a better team if we just make a few adjustments to our roster even if they do add Halladay because is restricts what else they can do... They have committed to V-Mart behind the plate a defensive liability and by trading for Halladay they take themselves out of any trade talks for a Adrian Gonzalez or another power 1B and they go into next season with the same old aging D they had last year only it will be yet another year older. Let them lock themselves into a bunch of immovable contracts for the next few years. I have never gotten the idea of blocking other clubs… Since when did that help anyone win a WS? Is the goal to make sure the Yankees win the world series next year or to prevent the Red Sox from doing it?

Who cares if they get Halladay and then have to overpay him next year… Josh Beckett is a free agent next year as well so they have to ante up two huge contracts to two of their top 3 pitchers knowing that Lester needs a new contract after 2014.

We still have a better team if we just make a few adjustments to our roster even if they do add Halladay because is restricts what else they can do… They have committed to V-Mart behind the plate a defensive liability and by trading for Halladay they take themselves out of any trade talks for a Adrian Gonzalez or another power 1B and they go into next season with the same old aging D they had last year only it will be yet another year older.

Let them lock themselves into a bunch of immovable contracts for the next few years.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/red-sox-hot-for-halladay-and-what-it-means-for-the-yankees-9428/comment-page-1#comment-8301 The other Chris H Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:45:24 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=9428#comment-8301 I would assume he would mean that since we have an ace (CC) and we are coming off of a WS win so our club doesn't "need" Halladay he would just be a luxury for us but since the Sox didn't win they "need him"... However since they have Lester and Beckett who matches Sabathia and Burnett very well I don't agree with that... Neither team actually needs Roy Halladay and I don't think either one improves themselves past 2-3 years in this deal. I would assume he would mean that since we have an ace (CC) and we are coming off of a WS win so our club doesn’t “need” Halladay he would just be a luxury for us but since the Sox didn’t win they “need him”… However since they have Lester and Beckett who matches Sabathia and Burnett very well I don’t agree with that… Neither team actually needs Roy Halladay and I don’t think either one improves themselves past 2-3 years in this deal.

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