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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
		<link>http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/11/how-good-is-austin-jackson-9310/comment-page-1#comment-2812</link>
		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grady Sizemore Vs Curtis Granderson... I started all numbers in 2006 because that was Granderson&#039;s first season with 500+ ABs.

Grady Sizemore is 27 years old and Curtis Granderson is 28.

Sizemore offense
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2006- 655 ABs, 190 H, 53 2B, 11 3B, 28 HRs,  78 BB, 153 Ks, 22 SB,  6 CS - .290/.375/.533/.908, .214 Avg against LHP
2007- 628 ABs, 174 H, 34 2B,  5 3B, 24 HRs, 101 BB, 155 Ks, 33 SB, 10 CS - .277/.390/.462/.852, .284 Avg against LHP
2008- 634 ABs, 170 H, 39 2B,  5 3B, 33 HRs,  98 BB, 130 Ks, 38 SB,  5 CS - .268/.374/.502/.876, .224 Avg against LHP
2009- 436 ABs, 108 H, 20 2B,  6 3B, 18 HRs,  60 BB,  92 Ks, 13 SB,  8 CS - .248/.343/.445/.788, .216 Avg against LHP

Sizemore defense
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2006- Arm  1.7, RngR 12.1, UZR 14.8
2007- Arm -3.6, RngR  5.9, UZR 3.5
2008- Arm -5.1, RngR  5.5, UZR 1.5
2009- Arm -2.2, RngR -1.5, UZR -2.6


Granderson offense
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2006- 596 ABs, 155 H, 31 2B,  9 3B, 19 HRs, 66 BB, 174 Ks,  8 SB, 5 CS - .260/.335/.438/.773, .218 Avg against LHP
2007- 612 ABs, 185 H, 38 2B, 23 3B, 23 HRs, 52 BB, 141 Ks, 26 SB, 1 CS - .302/.361/.552/.913, .160 Avg against LHP
2008- 553 ABs, 155 H, 26 2B, 13 3B, 22 HRs, 71 BB, 111 Ks, 12 SB, 4 CS - .280/.365/.494/.859, .259 Avg against LHP
2009- 631 ABs, 157 H, 23 2B,  8 3B, 30 HRs, 72 BB, 141 Ks, 20 SB, 6 CS - .249/.327/.453/.780, .183 Avg against LHP


Granderson defense
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2006- Arm 0.1, RngR 12.4, UZR 13.7
2007- Arm 4.5, RngR  8.8, UZR 14.2
2008- Arm -1.4 RngR -7.5, UZR -8.9
2009- Arm -0.6 RngR  1.4, UZR  1.6
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2008 was the year Granderson was injured and you can see that reflected in his defensive numbers while Sizemore was injured this year and suffered for it as well in the field. I think Granderson is on the rebound and will only improve his defense next year, all his numbers went up defensively from last year to this one and at one time he was putting up much better defensive numbers in CF than Grady was. Sizemore is also on a trend of downward defensive play and he has gotten steadily worse, if that continues he could become a LFer in no time.

I also think Granderson can hit left handed pitching well enough to be an everyday player in our lineup, with Sizemore you are getting a guy who has been better in his career against lefties than Granderson but has been inconsistent with his priduction Vs the southpaws.... Both are great CFers who have fallen on slightly hard times at least enough to be traded from smaller market teams, so which would you rather have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grady Sizemore Vs Curtis Granderson&#8230; I started all numbers in 2006 because that was Granderson&#8217;s first season with 500+ ABs.</p>
<p>Grady Sizemore is 27 years old and Curtis Granderson is 28.</p>
<p>Sizemore offense<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
2006- 655 ABs, 190 H, 53 2B, 11 3B, 28 HRs,  78 BB, 153 Ks, 22 SB,  6 CS &#8211; .290/.375/.533/.908, .214 Avg against LHP<br />
2007- 628 ABs, 174 H, 34 2B,  5 3B, 24 HRs, 101 BB, 155 Ks, 33 SB, 10 CS &#8211; .277/.390/.462/.852, .284 Avg against LHP<br />
2008- 634 ABs, 170 H, 39 2B,  5 3B, 33 HRs,  98 BB, 130 Ks, 38 SB,  5 CS &#8211; .268/.374/.502/.876, .224 Avg against LHP<br />
2009- 436 ABs, 108 H, 20 2B,  6 3B, 18 HRs,  60 BB,  92 Ks, 13 SB,  8 CS &#8211; .248/.343/.445/.788, .216 Avg against LHP</p>
<p>Sizemore defense<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
2006- Arm  1.7, RngR 12.1, UZR 14.8<br />
2007- Arm -3.6, RngR  5.9, UZR 3.5<br />
2008- Arm -5.1, RngR  5.5, UZR 1.5<br />
2009- Arm -2.2, RngR -1.5, UZR -2.6</p>
<p>Granderson offense<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
2006- 596 ABs, 155 H, 31 2B,  9 3B, 19 HRs, 66 BB, 174 Ks,  8 SB, 5 CS &#8211; .260/.335/.438/.773, .218 Avg against LHP<br />
2007- 612 ABs, 185 H, 38 2B, 23 3B, 23 HRs, 52 BB, 141 Ks, 26 SB, 1 CS &#8211; .302/.361/.552/.913, .160 Avg against LHP<br />
2008- 553 ABs, 155 H, 26 2B, 13 3B, 22 HRs, 71 BB, 111 Ks, 12 SB, 4 CS &#8211; .280/.365/.494/.859, .259 Avg against LHP<br />
2009- 631 ABs, 157 H, 23 2B,  8 3B, 30 HRs, 72 BB, 141 Ks, 20 SB, 6 CS &#8211; .249/.327/.453/.780, .183 Avg against LHP</p>
<p>Granderson defense<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
2006- Arm 0.1, RngR 12.4, UZR 13.7<br />
2007- Arm 4.5, RngR  8.8, UZR 14.2<br />
2008- Arm -1.4 RngR -7.5, UZR -8.9<br />
2009- Arm -0.6 RngR  1.4, UZR  1.6<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>2008 was the year Granderson was injured and you can see that reflected in his defensive numbers while Sizemore was injured this year and suffered for it as well in the field. I think Granderson is on the rebound and will only improve his defense next year, all his numbers went up defensively from last year to this one and at one time he was putting up much better defensive numbers in CF than Grady was. Sizemore is also on a trend of downward defensive play and he has gotten steadily worse, if that continues he could become a LFer in no time.</p>
<p>I also think Granderson can hit left handed pitching well enough to be an everyday player in our lineup, with Sizemore you are getting a guy who has been better in his career against lefties than Granderson but has been inconsistent with his priduction Vs the southpaws&#8230;. Both are great CFers who have fallen on slightly hard times at least enough to be traded from smaller market teams, so which would you rather have?</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grady is under contract until the end of 2011 but he has a team option for 2012, once he is traded however his team option morphs into a player option basically turning it from a 3 year contract to 2 years as soon as you acquire him. Because of this the Indians are losing leverage with the idea of trading him because even though he is coming off of surgery he only under contract for 2 more years and if they wait a year to trade him he is a 28 year old instead of 27 and only has 1 year left on his deal instead of 2... This means they should at least be open to the idea of trading him either during the winter or in the middle of the season during the trade deadline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grady is under contract until the end of 2011 but he has a team option for 2012, once he is traded however his team option morphs into a player option basically turning it from a 3 year contract to 2 years as soon as you acquire him. Because of this the Indians are losing leverage with the idea of trading him because even though he is coming off of surgery he only under contract for 2 more years and if they wait a year to trade him he is a 28 year old instead of 27 and only has 1 year left on his deal instead of 2&#8230; This means they should at least be open to the idea of trading him either during the winter or in the middle of the season during the trade deadline.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Montero is off limits but I think if a deal comes along the Yankees really like but Romine is the holdup there will be no holdup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Montero is off limits but I think if a deal comes along the Yankees really like but Romine is the holdup there will be no holdup.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is ranked in the top 25 I believe when it comes to prospects rankings but I don&#039;t know how much people know of him in other camps.


You could possibly do a Austin Jackson trade in which you bring back Sizmore... Sizemore coming off injury and the Indians look to be in complete rebuilding mode and at 27 Grady is one of the guys who would be in his 30s once they start winning again so to get the most value for him he needs to be traded soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is ranked in the top 25 I believe when it comes to prospects rankings but I don&#8217;t know how much people know of him in other camps.</p>
<p>You could possibly do a Austin Jackson trade in which you bring back Sizmore&#8230; Sizemore coming off injury and the Indians look to be in complete rebuilding mode and at 27 Grady is one of the guys who would be in his 30s once they start winning again so to get the most value for him he needs to be traded soon.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylarry</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftylarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Montero and Romine in my and i believe the Yankees minds are the true untouchables.Posada is almost over and Montero&#039;s bat is super special for a catcher and good for anywhere else.
Romine does it all and has only scratched the surface of what he can be and yankees know it.
You trade OF&#039;s and pitchers who look to be limited.You don&#039;t trade Catchers with special ability until 1-2 make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montero and Romine in my and i believe the Yankees minds are the true untouchables.Posada is almost over and Montero&#8217;s bat is super special for a catcher and good for anywhere else.<br />
Romine does it all and has only scratched the surface of what he can be and yankees know it.<br />
You trade OF&#8217;s and pitchers who look to be limited.You don&#8217;t trade Catchers with special ability until 1-2 make it.</p>
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		<title>By: leftylarry</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftylarry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-28950&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-28950&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The other Chris H&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: The deal has to be the right deal though, as you said his power should increase not to a Granderson level I don’t think but 20-25 HRs isn’t unreachable for a guy like Jackson… What deal though? I am not sure if other clubs value Jackson as much as the Yankees do so because of that I am not sure the availability of trades with Jackson as the main piece of the puzzle. If the reports are true that the Mariners wanted Jackson for Washburn then they can’t have thought of him to highly because Washburn isn’t exactly a spring chicken or someone with much potential other than a 4th or 5th starter.

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quite often , especially when dumping salary as teams often do, it&#039;s more important that the fans think they received a top prospect then if he really is a top prospect.I think AJax passes the top prospect test.</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-28950" rel="nofollow">The other Chris H</a></strong>: The deal has to be the right deal though, as you said his power should increase not to a Granderson level I don’t think but 20-25 HRs isn’t unreachable for a guy like Jackson… What deal though? I am not sure if other clubs value Jackson as much as the Yankees do so because of that I am not sure the availability of trades with Jackson as the main piece of the puzzle. If the reports are true that the Mariners wanted Jackson for Washburn then they can’t have thought of him to highly because Washburn isn’t exactly a spring chicken or someone with much potential other than a 4th or 5th starter.</p>
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<p>quite often , especially when dumping salary as teams often do, it&#8217;s more important that the fans think they received a top prospect then if he really is a top prospect.I think AJax passes the top prospect test.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two players who come to mind as possible CF trade options for the Yankees...

Of course the obvious one is Curtis Granderson, the other not talked about as much player is Grady Sizemore... Sizemore is a year younger than Granderson and exhibits the same kind of power from the left side of the plate having hit 33 HRS in 2008. In 2009 he had an injury shortened season which ended in surgery so he has a little bit of a question mark to him there but either one could play a better CF than we currently have and bring enough power from the left side of the plate hitting high enough in the order to completely replace Damon&#039;s production in the lineup.



Who costs more? Granderson coming off of his worst average year but best with power or Sizemore who is coming off of mid season surgery and like Granderson a down year with his average (although that can be explained by the injury).

Both players are going to bring extreme power to the CF position but they both have some huge flaws... Sizmore like Granderson doesn&#039;t hit lefties that well (though he is slightly better than Curtis) and also like Granderson Sizemore tends to strikeout 130-150+ times a year, Unlike Granderson however Sizmore has never actually hit higher than .290 in a season and they both hit leadoff in their respective orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two players who come to mind as possible CF trade options for the Yankees&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course the obvious one is Curtis Granderson, the other not talked about as much player is Grady Sizemore&#8230; Sizemore is a year younger than Granderson and exhibits the same kind of power from the left side of the plate having hit 33 HRS in 2008. In 2009 he had an injury shortened season which ended in surgery so he has a little bit of a question mark to him there but either one could play a better CF than we currently have and bring enough power from the left side of the plate hitting high enough in the order to completely replace Damon&#8217;s production in the lineup.</p>
<p>Who costs more? Granderson coming off of his worst average year but best with power or Sizemore who is coming off of mid season surgery and like Granderson a down year with his average (although that can be explained by the injury).</p>
<p>Both players are going to bring extreme power to the CF position but they both have some huge flaws&#8230; Sizmore like Granderson doesn&#8217;t hit lefties that well (though he is slightly better than Curtis) and also like Granderson Sizemore tends to strikeout 130-150+ times a year, Unlike Granderson however Sizmore has never actually hit higher than .290 in a season and they both hit leadoff in their respective orders.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point I am willing to trade Austin in any deal that nets a long term solution at CF or any deal that involves us getting a 28 years old or younger starting pitcher...

Austin is a good player but his potential is only so high if his power doesn&#039;t develop and while he isn&#039;t a bad fielder in CF he isn&#039;t the greatest and if you are going to deal with 140+ strikeouts and no power you would like for him to be a little sharper defender.


2 centerfielders who pop in to mind as possibly available would be the obvious on of Curtis Granderson who has been rumored as on the block and one who hasn&#039;t been mentioned would be Grady Sizemore.

Sizemore has some of the same problems that Granderson does which include the lack of abiltity to hit lefties but like Granderson he also bring extrme power to CF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point I am willing to trade Austin in any deal that nets a long term solution at CF or any deal that involves us getting a 28 years old or younger starting pitcher&#8230;</p>
<p>Austin is a good player but his potential is only so high if his power doesn&#8217;t develop and while he isn&#8217;t a bad fielder in CF he isn&#8217;t the greatest and if you are going to deal with 140+ strikeouts and no power you would like for him to be a little sharper defender.</p>
<p>2 centerfielders who pop in to mind as possibly available would be the obvious on of Curtis Granderson who has been rumored as on the block and one who hasn&#8217;t been mentioned would be Grady Sizemore.</p>
<p>Sizemore has some of the same problems that Granderson does which include the lack of abiltity to hit lefties but like Granderson he also bring extrme power to CF.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Crawford I think he will only start to decline once he hits 30 and before long will be in the defensive range of Johnny Damon but from the looks of it the Rays don&#039;t see it that way, they seem genuinely intent on trying to sign Crawford long term.

I also am not sure how much you can get for Crawford, I mean as you said he is a pure speed guy who hits at the top of the lineup with limited power who in 2 years will be 30 on his decline. Probably get more for Crawford then you would get for BJ at the current moment though.



The day the asking price goes up to Montero plus is the day hell freezes over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want Crawford I think he will only start to decline once he hits 30 and before long will be in the defensive range of Johnny Damon but from the looks of it the Rays don&#8217;t see it that way, they seem genuinely intent on trying to sign Crawford long term.</p>
<p>I also am not sure how much you can get for Crawford, I mean as you said he is a pure speed guy who hits at the top of the lineup with limited power who in 2 years will be 30 on his decline. Probably get more for Crawford then you would get for BJ at the current moment though.</p>
<p>The day the asking price goes up to Montero plus is the day hell freezes over!</p>
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		<title>By: YankeeGrunt</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankeeGrunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three more years of cost-controlled Upton versus a speedster who will be on the wrong side of thirty in 2012 and command eight figures per annum for both the 2011 and 2012 seasons, by your logic it makes a lot more sense to sell Crawford while his value is high.

The day the asking price comes down to AJack and Romine plus is the day that the Rangers and half a dozen other teams get on the phone and make their own offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three more years of cost-controlled Upton versus a speedster who will be on the wrong side of thirty in 2012 and command eight figures per annum for both the 2011 and 2012 seasons, by your logic it makes a lot more sense to sell Crawford while his value is high.</p>
<p>The day the asking price comes down to AJack and Romine plus is the day that the Rangers and half a dozen other teams get on the phone and make their own offers.</p>
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