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	<title>Comments on: Heyman: Yankees Like Lackey</title>
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		<title>By: Mo4Pres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo4Pres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagree with John Heyman...  we should add a reliable 3rd starter for beyond just 2010.  Pettitte will be a great part of the 2010 season.  But after that, having Lackey will prove to be very valuable.

Side note, Joba needs to be given another shot at starting in 2010... not Hughes.  With Lackey in the mix, Hughes can spend another year in the pen.  Unlike Hughes, Joba has shown the confidence to throw all 4 of his pitches at the major league level.  On the other hand, despite scouting reports, we have yet to witness Hughes throw anything but a fastball/curve combo.  Gone are the changeup, slider and cutter that Hughes supposedly had in the minors.  And Hughes isn&#039;t filthy enough to survive as a starter, as a 2-pitch pitcher.

1. CC
2. AJ
3. Andy
4. Lackey
5. Joba
6. Wang as spot starter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree with John Heyman&#8230;  we should add a reliable 3rd starter for beyond just 2010.  Pettitte will be a great part of the 2010 season.  But after that, having Lackey will prove to be very valuable.</p>
<p>Side note, Joba needs to be given another shot at starting in 2010&#8230; not Hughes.  With Lackey in the mix, Hughes can spend another year in the pen.  Unlike Hughes, Joba has shown the confidence to throw all 4 of his pitches at the major league level.  On the other hand, despite scouting reports, we have yet to witness Hughes throw anything but a fastball/curve combo.  Gone are the changeup, slider and cutter that Hughes supposedly had in the minors.  And Hughes isn&#8217;t filthy enough to survive as a starter, as a 2-pitch pitcher.</p>
<p>1. CC<br />
2. AJ<br />
3. Andy<br />
4. Lackey<br />
5. Joba<br />
6. Wang as spot starter</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not confident going into next year with this team though...


Sure in theory Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Joba and Hughes/others could work but do you want to rely on it? Can you really go with a 3 man rotation in the playoffs again? That plan barley held together and only did because we never saw a game 7.


What if Pettitte gets hurt? He is another year older and has had injury problems in the past, if he goes down what is the rotation? Sabathia, Burnett, Joba, Hughes and Mitre? No thank you! Not to mention Hughes innings limit towards the end of the year you could end up with Sabathia, Burnett, Joba, Mitre and Gaudin... Do you want that?


What if AJ gets hurt or isn&#039;t as good as he was this year (which was a 4 ERA as is) and Andy is hurt then you have 1 starting pitcher you can trust in CC and 1 pitcher can&#039;t win this division... We need to sign or trade for at least 1 veteran starter to give more depth to the rotation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not confident going into next year with this team though&#8230;</p>
<p>Sure in theory Sabathia, Burnett, Pettitte, Joba and Hughes/others could work but do you want to rely on it? Can you really go with a 3 man rotation in the playoffs again? That plan barley held together and only did because we never saw a game 7.</p>
<p>What if Pettitte gets hurt? He is another year older and has had injury problems in the past, if he goes down what is the rotation? Sabathia, Burnett, Joba, Hughes and Mitre? No thank you! Not to mention Hughes innings limit towards the end of the year you could end up with Sabathia, Burnett, Joba, Mitre and Gaudin&#8230; Do you want that?</p>
<p>What if AJ gets hurt or isn&#8217;t as good as he was this year (which was a 4 ERA as is) and Andy is hurt then you have 1 starting pitcher you can trust in CC and 1 pitcher can&#8217;t win this division&#8230; We need to sign or trade for at least 1 veteran starter to give more depth to the rotation.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His bat at this point doesn&#039;t outweigh his bad defense, I&#039;m sure statistically he is worth more runs than he gives up but that would only be because of the New Yankee stadium and the power boost it gives him. You shouldn&#039;t have to hide his D. Look at it this way if Damon actually had an arm or knew how to go after a ball and either throws to home with power or actually catches the ball (which a decent fielder does) then Ryan Howard never scores from 2nd in game 4 and Damon doesn&#039;t have to steal 2 bags against Lidge.


Matsui has the much better bat and is the better DH choice (which both are) you can&#039;t hardly say well at least Damon plays the field because he can&#039;t play the field well... I mean David Ortiz can play first but why would you let him? I know Damon isn&#039;t that bad at LF as Poppy is at first but still.



The only player available for cheap on a short term contract is Mike Cameron who even though he turns 37 next year he would still provide much better defense in LF than Damon ever could and his 20 HRs and .250 batting average in the end will be more valuable than Damon (they both hit 24 HRs this year) because of the defensive gap between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His bat at this point doesn&#8217;t outweigh his bad defense, I&#8217;m sure statistically he is worth more runs than he gives up but that would only be because of the New Yankee stadium and the power boost it gives him. You shouldn&#8217;t have to hide his D. Look at it this way if Damon actually had an arm or knew how to go after a ball and either throws to home with power or actually catches the ball (which a decent fielder does) then Ryan Howard never scores from 2nd in game 4 and Damon doesn&#8217;t have to steal 2 bags against Lidge.</p>
<p>Matsui has the much better bat and is the better DH choice (which both are) you can&#8217;t hardly say well at least Damon plays the field because he can&#8217;t play the field well&#8230; I mean David Ortiz can play first but why would you let him? I know Damon isn&#8217;t that bad at LF as Poppy is at first but still.</p>
<p>The only player available for cheap on a short term contract is Mike Cameron who even though he turns 37 next year he would still provide much better defense in LF than Damon ever could and his 20 HRs and .250 batting average in the end will be more valuable than Damon (they both hit 24 HRs this year) because of the defensive gap between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: StandingO'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>StandingO'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont have the WAR figures in front of me, but I&#039;m thinking his weak defense is somewhat hidden by his offensive ability.  If I&#039;m wrong please let me know.

Bottom line is I&#039;d just hate to lose his bat.  I&#039;d bring him back over Matsui because he can at least play the field.  Also what else is out there that doesn&#039;t require a long term contract?  If Cashman can work a trade for a younger outfielder with a decent bat and keep Matsui to DH then I&#039;m fine with letting Damon go.  We shall see tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont have the WAR figures in front of me, but I&#8217;m thinking his weak defense is somewhat hidden by his offensive ability.  If I&#8217;m wrong please let me know.</p>
<p>Bottom line is I&#8217;d just hate to lose his bat.  I&#8217;d bring him back over Matsui because he can at least play the field.  Also what else is out there that doesn&#8217;t require a long term contract?  If Cashman can work a trade for a younger outfielder with a decent bat and keep Matsui to DH then I&#8217;m fine with letting Damon go.  We shall see tho.</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like them to sit out most of the FA bidding but the same team? Damon in LF? How can you stomach it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like them to sit out most of the FA bidding but the same team? Damon in LF? How can you stomach it?</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lackey is a dumb move long term... This is a team who just won a championship you want to sign another older than 30 starting pitcher to ace money so he can be your 2nd or 3rd starter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lackey is a dumb move long term&#8230; This is a team who just won a championship you want to sign another older than 30 starting pitcher to ace money so he can be your 2nd or 3rd starter?</p>
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		<title>By: The other Chris H</title>
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		<dc:creator>The other Chris H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we spent to much money on AJ (a plus 30 starter who should be a glorified number 3 starter) so the solution is to spend to much money on a plus 30 losing his stuff glorified 2nd or 3rd starter? No thanks!



Lackey costs way to much money for what he offers, you would be much better just signing low this year because you will get more value out of signing a bunch of players to fill the holes we have than overpaying for one starter.


Also that number 4 starter won number 27 for us if you didn&#039;t watch and did so on short rest...




The loser shouldn&#039;t be in the pen he should start his season in Scranton... Either Joba loses and he needs the minor leagues because he won&#039;t have an innings limit there is no excuse if he doesn&#039;t preform, and there is no reason making him a 93-96 MPH bullpen piece. If Hughes loses out (which I would expect) then you send him to the minors to help check his innings like Tampa did with Price last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we spent to much money on AJ (a plus 30 starter who should be a glorified number 3 starter) so the solution is to spend to much money on a plus 30 losing his stuff glorified 2nd or 3rd starter? No thanks!</p>
<p>Lackey costs way to much money for what he offers, you would be much better just signing low this year because you will get more value out of signing a bunch of players to fill the holes we have than overpaying for one starter.</p>
<p>Also that number 4 starter won number 27 for us if you didn&#8217;t watch and did so on short rest&#8230;</p>
<p>The loser shouldn&#8217;t be in the pen he should start his season in Scranton&#8230; Either Joba loses and he needs the minor leagues because he won&#8217;t have an innings limit there is no excuse if he doesn&#8217;t preform, and there is no reason making him a 93-96 MPH bullpen piece. If Hughes loses out (which I would expect) then you send him to the minors to help check his innings like Tampa did with Price last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lackey would be an excellent signing, just because we gave AJ too much money doesn&#039;t mean we don&#039;t need a true #2 starter. Pettitte is a 4 and the 5th goes to whomever earns it. The loser helping out in the pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lackey would be an excellent signing, just because we gave AJ too much money doesn&#8217;t mean we don&#8217;t need a true #2 starter. Pettitte is a 4 and the 5th goes to whomever earns it. The loser helping out in the pen.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, id be fine with the yankees having a relaxed winter...its always fun to sign a big FA but its not always necessary...hal really expanded his wallet last offseason i think he isn&#039;t planning on anything big anytime soon...we have a lot of arms in the pen and if u look at the rest of baseball teams have 1-3 strong pitchers and their 4-5 guys are just .500 pitchers....joba, hughes wang ipk, nova mccallaster gaudin mitre, i think we can get .500 out of those guys....it hurt us in &#039;08 when we had sidney ponson and darell rasner plus pettite hurt and we didn&#039;t have CC or AJ. I think the team especially after the FA signings has a solid foundation, cash just needs to switch a few pieces and we should field a competitive team next year.
Go yanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, id be fine with the yankees having a relaxed winter&#8230;its always fun to sign a big FA but its not always necessary&#8230;hal really expanded his wallet last offseason i think he isn&#8217;t planning on anything big anytime soon&#8230;we have a lot of arms in the pen and if u look at the rest of baseball teams have 1-3 strong pitchers and their 4-5 guys are just .500 pitchers&#8230;.joba, hughes wang ipk, nova mccallaster gaudin mitre, i think we can get .500 out of those guys&#8230;.it hurt us in &#8216;08 when we had sidney ponson and darell rasner plus pettite hurt and we didn&#8217;t have CC or AJ. I think the team especially after the FA signings has a solid foundation, cash just needs to switch a few pieces and we should field a competitive team next year.<br />
Go yanks!</p>
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		<title>By: StandingO'Neill</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO The Yankees should basically sit out this year, maybe just resign Damon and pettitte to short deal and go into 2010 with basically the same team.  That would likely make them weaker in 2010 since they are bound to see some decrease in performance from Posada, Jeter, and a few other guys, and I really dont expect to see Cano doing much better than he did in 2009.

I&#039;m sure the Sox will reload, and that will cause a lot of rabid yankee fans to seek Cashmans blood for just sitting back after winning a world series.  But honestly for me, as long as they field a competitive team next year, and they of course will, the Yankees are playing with house money.  I&#039;d like to see them win again, but if not I&#039;m not going to act irrationally.  The win this year erased all the 2004 demons and I am completely at peace as a yankee fan.  Although I say this as long as boston doesn&#039;t win.

So as much as I do like Lackey, there is a lot of risk involved.  Let&#039;s see if Joba or Hughes can rise to the challenge, and if not, perhaps we can target some of the big young FA down the road (King Felix, Justin Upton, etc) instead of tying up our money now on 30 year olds like Lackey and Holliday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO The Yankees should basically sit out this year, maybe just resign Damon and pettitte to short deal and go into 2010 with basically the same team.  That would likely make them weaker in 2010 since they are bound to see some decrease in performance from Posada, Jeter, and a few other guys, and I really dont expect to see Cano doing much better than he did in 2009.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the Sox will reload, and that will cause a lot of rabid yankee fans to seek Cashmans blood for just sitting back after winning a world series.  But honestly for me, as long as they field a competitive team next year, and they of course will, the Yankees are playing with house money.  I&#8217;d like to see them win again, but if not I&#8217;m not going to act irrationally.  The win this year erased all the 2004 demons and I am completely at peace as a yankee fan.  Although I say this as long as boston doesn&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>So as much as I do like Lackey, there is a lot of risk involved.  Let&#8217;s see if Joba or Hughes can rise to the challenge, and if not, perhaps we can target some of the big young FA down the road (King Felix, Justin Upton, etc) instead of tying up our money now on 30 year olds like Lackey and Holliday.</p>
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