Comments on: The future for Ian Kennedy? http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420 The Blog Formerly Known As The Yankee Universe Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:19:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2695 The other Chris H Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:06:12 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2695 Actually Zach McAllister is a lot more highly rated than Ivan Nova who is basically a less talented McAllister, and at this point I would have Zach above Kennedy on the list of who gets a starting spot. I just don't believe that Kennedy has the stuff or the command to be successful long term in the rotation, he will only be able to have the advantage when the hitter doesn't know what he is facing, once he starts to get seen and scouted you see his numbers get worse. He will never be able to manage good line ups enough time to justify being a starter, the Red Sox would kill him if he were to be a starter for the Yankees regularly. Actually Zach McAllister is a lot more highly rated than Ivan Nova who is basically a less talented McAllister, and at this point I would have Zach above Kennedy on the list of who gets a starting spot. I just don’t believe that Kennedy has the stuff or the command to be successful long term in the rotation, he will only be able to have the advantage when the hitter doesn’t know what he is facing, once he starts to get seen and scouted you see his numbers get worse. He will never be able to manage good line ups enough time to justify being a starter, the Red Sox would kill him if he were to be a starter for the Yankees regularly.

]]> By: misterd http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2694 misterd Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:34:31 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2694 Coming out of 2007, I was more impressed with Kennedy than Hughes and Joba. He pitched well as a starter in both the regular season and post. I don't know what happened to him in '08, but I think has earned a shot in '10 along with Joba and Hughes (and followed closely by Ivan). Let them pitch. Let them compete.Let the best rise to the top, the rest may be moved to the pen or traded. Coming out of 2007, I was more impressed with Kennedy than Hughes and Joba. He pitched well as a starter in both the regular season and post. I don’t know what happened to him in ‘08, but I think has earned a shot in ‘10 along with Joba and Hughes (and followed closely by Ivan). Let them pitch. Let them compete.Let the best rise to the top, the rest may be moved to the pen or traded.

]]> By: Ian Kennedy Pitch F/X: 2008 vs. 2009 | Pending Pinstripes http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2693 Ian Kennedy Pitch F/X: 2008 vs. 2009 | Pending Pinstripes Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:59:20 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2693 [...] make an even better reliever. Update: Former Pending Pinstripes scribe EJ Fagan chimes in with his thoughts on Ian Kennedy over at The Yankee Universe. Thanks to Brooks Baseball for the Pitch F/X [...] [...] make an even better reliever. Update: Former Pending Pinstripes scribe EJ Fagan chimes in with his thoughts on Ian Kennedy over at The Yankee Universe. Thanks to Brooks Baseball for the Pitch F/X [...]

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2692 The other Chris H Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:19:48 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2692 Lilly is a lefty first off which gives him an advantage and in the AL Lilly has been and would be a mid 4 to 5 ERA guy with 1.4 and 1.5 WHIPS not bad but not great either, and he has an advantage over Kennedy because he is a lefty. So if Kennedy becomes a 4.5-5 ERA guy who can pitch close to 200 IP that is a win but that is about the ceiling on the guy in a best case scenario making him a 4th or 5th starter if he can sure up his control and mental issues. Lilly is a lefty first off which gives him an advantage and in the AL Lilly has been and would be a mid 4 to 5 ERA guy with 1.4 and 1.5 WHIPS not bad but not great either, and he has an advantage over Kennedy because he is a lefty. So if Kennedy becomes a 4.5-5 ERA guy who can pitch close to 200 IP that is a win but that is about the ceiling on the guy in a best case scenario making him a 4th or 5th starter if he can sure up his control and mental issues.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2691 The other Chris H Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:50:18 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2691 I also went conservative on the ERAs so no one would say I was trying to make Hughes and Kennedy look bad... Truthfully I think Hughes would have a similar ERA to Joba this year or higher even and Joba I put at 4.3 but I would expect closer to 4.5 if he is still throwing 91 and Kennedy getting a 5 is really generous for me but I don't think anyone here will give an ERA higher than 5 any credit because I am sure you guys all expect him to have 200 IP and a 3.30 ERA haha. If Burnett doesn't improve and CC takes a step back that rotation is god awful. I also went conservative on the ERAs so no one would say I was trying to make Hughes and Kennedy look bad… Truthfully I think Hughes would have a similar ERA to Joba this year or higher even and Joba I put at 4.3 but I would expect closer to 4.5 if he is still throwing 91 and Kennedy getting a 5 is really generous for me but I don’t think anyone here will give an ERA higher than 5 any credit because I am sure you guys all expect him to have 200 IP and a 3.30 ERA haha. If Burnett doesn’t improve and CC takes a step back that rotation is god awful.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2690 The other Chris H Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:41:56 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2690 I obvious had to give AJ some improvement in order to justify that rotation but no I highly disagree with you on that one! Pettitte Vs Chamberlain Chamberlain Vs Hughes Gaudin Vs Kennedy Pettitte is a better 3rd starter than either Chamberlain or Hughes at this point and Hughes next year will have to learn to start and use all his pitches all over again in a starting format which will take some adjusting to especially since he won't be throwing 95 anymore since he wont be in the pen and as it currently stands I would take Gaudin to beat Kennedy in a game but neither would go 6 innings. With out Pettitte we have a really young, inexperienced and badly set up rotation... Just look at this years match ups with the Angles with that rotation. Sabathia Vs Lackey Burnett Vs Saunders Chamberlain Vs Weaver Hughes Vs Kazmir I am pretty sure we lose both of the last two games in that series and I really doubt we can trust those two and Kennedy to be 3/5 of the starting... 3/5 of the rotation would have never seen 200 IP before and they would be responsible for getting us in the playoffs. I obvious had to give AJ some improvement in order to justify that rotation but no I highly disagree with you on that one!

Pettitte Vs Chamberlain
Chamberlain Vs Hughes
Gaudin Vs Kennedy

Pettitte is a better 3rd starter than either Chamberlain or Hughes at this point and Hughes next year will have to learn to start and use all his pitches all over again in a starting format which will take some adjusting to especially since he won’t be throwing 95 anymore since he wont be in the pen and as it currently stands I would take Gaudin to beat Kennedy in a game but neither would go 6 innings.

With out Pettitte we have a really young, inexperienced and badly set up rotation… Just look at this years match ups with the Angles with that rotation.

Sabathia Vs Lackey
Burnett Vs Saunders
Chamberlain Vs Weaver
Hughes Vs Kazmir

I am pretty sure we lose both of the last two games in that series and I really doubt we can trust those two and Kennedy to be 3/5 of the starting… 3/5 of the rotation would have never seen 200 IP before and they would be responsible for getting us in the playoffs.

]]> By: EJ Fagan http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2689 EJ Fagan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:33:58 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2689 There's a great book called, "How to lie with statistics". You should read it. Or perhaps you already have. I'd also like to point out that if that rotation (that doesn't include Pettitte), we'd have a better rotation than this year. This deserves a full post and will get one before I go to sleep tonight. There’s a great book called, “How to lie with statistics”. You should read it. Or perhaps you already have.

I’d also like to point out that if that rotation (that doesn’t include Pettitte), we’d have a better rotation than this year.

This deserves a full post and will get one before I go to sleep tonight.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2688 The other Chris H Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:29:43 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2688 I agree the guy is a 6'6 sinker ball pitcher with off speed pitches he should be fine throwing 88-93. I agree the guy is a 6′6 sinker ball pitcher with off speed pitches he should be fine throwing 88-93.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2687 The other Chris H Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:27:07 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2687 I don't see Kennedy as a good starting pitcher and I don't see Hughes as a dominate 1-2 starter so I have no problem putting either into the bullpen but if I was going to pick one who actually has the potential to be a 3 starter it would be Hughes. I am already on record as saying I don't Aceves or Kennedy as anything more than mediocre 5 starters and nothing else, they are both better off in the bull pen. Kennedy pitching 200 innings for us is a death sentence to the team because he isn't good enough at this time to pitch that many innings and succeed doing it. I don’t see Kennedy as a good starting pitcher and I don’t see Hughes as a dominate 1-2 starter so I have no problem putting either into the bullpen but if I was going to pick one who actually has the potential to be a 3 starter it would be Hughes. I am already on record as saying I don’t Aceves or Kennedy as anything more than mediocre 5 starters and nothing else, they are both better off in the bull pen.

Kennedy pitching 200 innings for us is a death sentence to the team because he isn’t good enough at this time to pitch that many innings and succeed doing it.

]]> By: EJ Fagan http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/the-future-for-ian-kennedy-8420/comment-page-1#comment-2686 EJ Fagan Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:24:36 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8420#comment-2686 McAllister is a very tall guy with a ton of natural sink. Don't worry about the scouting reports - his velocity is pretty much MLB average, but fluctuates on some different nights. McAllister is a very tall guy with a ton of natural sink. Don’t worry about the scouting reports – his velocity is pretty much MLB average, but fluctuates on some different nights.

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