Comments on: In Defense of Joe Girardi http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599 The Blog Formerly Known As The Yankee Universe Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:57:03 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14860 The other Chris H Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:19:33 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14860 looking for length can cost your bullpen down the road so it is a very thin line! looking for length can cost your bullpen down the road so it is a very thin line!

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14859 The other Chris H Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:17:55 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14859 You have no choice but to pinch run Matsui when he did... It was extra innings so he had to use most of his pitchers.... He did a good job in game 2, had izturis just gone to first it's runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs so the Yankees still have a chance to win the game with out an error. You have no choice but to pinch run Matsui when he did… It was extra innings so he had to use most of his pitchers…. He did a good job in game 2, had izturis just gone to first it’s runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs so the Yankees still have a chance to win the game with out an error.

]]> By: Chris H. http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14858 Chris H. Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:01:57 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14858 We could honestly go over the reasoning for each of these moves for hours at a time. This, then, makes them somewhat understandable. Again, the Robertson-Aceves move is really the only one that didn't have any clear defense, really. We could honestly go over the reasoning for each of these moves for hours at a time. This, then, makes them somewhat understandable. Again, the Robertson-Aceves move is really the only one that didn’t have any clear defense, really.

]]> By: The other Chris H http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14857 The other Chris H Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:43:55 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14857 Very few managerial moves win ball games... I think Mike S and his perfectly timed pitch out disagree with you! Very few managerial moves win ball games… I think Mike S and his perfectly timed pitch out disagree with you!

]]> By: Lou http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14856 Lou Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:53:32 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14856 1. You have explained why he should have just used Coke, not why he should have used both relievers. 2. Gardner is also the teams best defensive OF, by UZR the best defensive player on the team. You just gave him the DH spot. 3. Yes, but now you have taken your most versatile defender and your best defender and used them at DH. The gain they provided was minimal at best each time while the risk was great. 4. All the more reason why he shouldn't have used his two defensive replacements at DH. But again, what were the odds of a righty hitter hitting a fly ball to LF on Rivera? 5. Rivera threw 25 pitches on Saturday, not 30+. Girardi managed every other move like there was two out in the bottom of the ninth inning in game seven of the WS, down by 1. I would buy the save him for tomorrow reasoning if he had used it in making any of the above 4 decisions. Now, I agree that in a vacuum these moves can be defended but not collectively. 1. You have explained why he should have just used Coke, not why he should have used both relievers.
2. Gardner is also the teams best defensive OF, by UZR the best defensive player on the team. You just gave him the DH spot.
3. Yes, but now you have taken your most versatile defender and your best defender and used them at DH. The gain they provided was minimal at best each time while the risk was great.
4. All the more reason why he shouldn’t have used his two defensive replacements at DH. But again, what were the odds of a righty hitter hitting a fly ball to LF on Rivera?
5. Rivera threw 25 pitches on Saturday, not 30+. Girardi managed every other move like there was two out in the bottom of the ninth inning in game seven of the WS, down by 1. I would buy the save him for tomorrow reasoning if he had used it in making any of the above 4 decisions.

Now, I agree that in a vacuum these moves can be defended but not collectively.

]]> By: toby koby http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14855 toby koby Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:36:21 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14855 why did removing Marte only after one pitch for his only other lefty make sense? why did removing Marte only after one pitch for his only other lefty make sense?

]]> By: toby koby http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14854 toby koby Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:33:41 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14854 y y

]]> By: Chris H. http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14853 Chris H. Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:31:22 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14853 Here I go. 1. Why does everyone love Damaso Marte all of a sudden? He got one out, we should be glad that he did that much. He's been all over the place all year, why leave him in for more than a batter? 2. Gardner is the best baserunner on the team. If Freddy Guzman was in there you'd be asking, why not run Gardner instead? I'll take Gardner over Guzman in that situation, 9 times out of 10. 3. Hairston is a professional, veteran hitter and Gardner is a rookie. I would have liked to see Gardner in there, but this isn't a move that will kill you (Hairston can run, too, like Gardner). 4. Removing Damon was one of the better moves Girardi has made. If Damon were to catch a ball and lob it in when another player could have made a stronger throw to home, you'd be asking, why didn't Girardi remove Damon for a defensive replacement? 5. He removed Rivera because he threw 30+ pitches the other day and 17 last night. Do you not want him available today in a game that features CC on short rest? I don't think so. Those moves can all be defended (some more than others). The D-Rob-Aceves one is the hardest to figure out. Here I go.

1. Why does everyone love Damaso Marte all of a sudden? He got one out, we should be glad that he did that much. He’s been all over the place all year, why leave him in for more than a batter?
2. Gardner is the best baserunner on the team. If Freddy Guzman was in there you’d be asking, why not run Gardner instead? I’ll take Gardner over Guzman in that situation, 9 times out of 10.
3. Hairston is a professional, veteran hitter and Gardner is a rookie. I would have liked to see Gardner in there, but this isn’t a move that will kill you (Hairston can run, too, like Gardner).
4. Removing Damon was one of the better moves Girardi has made. If Damon were to catch a ball and lob it in when another player could have made a stronger throw to home, you’d be asking, why didn’t Girardi remove Damon for a defensive replacement?
5. He removed Rivera because he threw 30+ pitches the other day and 17 last night. Do you not want him available today in a game that features CC on short rest? I don’t think so.

Those moves can all be defended (some more than others). The D-Rob-Aceves one is the hardest to figure out.

]]> By: Rob A from BBD http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14852 Rob A from BBD Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:27:58 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14852 All post season there have been grumblings of him going with matchups too often. Especially in extra innings, you need to look for length out of these guys, you can't always go with the matchups in these situations. This isn't about the Yankees going 11-0 in the playoffs, it's about a pattern that has developed that is becoming increasingly problematic. All post season there have been grumblings of him going with matchups too often. Especially in extra innings, you need to look for length out of these guys, you can’t always go with the matchups in these situations. This isn’t about the Yankees going 11-0 in the playoffs, it’s about a pattern that has developed that is becoming increasingly problematic.

]]> By: Lou http://www.theyankeeu.com/2009/10/in-defense-of-joe-girardi-8599/comment-page-1#comment-14851 Lou Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:38:35 +0000 http://www.theyankeeuniverse.com/?p=8599#comment-14851 I joined the thread today because of fantastic blogging by Steve S. He posted something that he new would get us going, and good for him. If he had simply wrote about everything I was thinking I would have read the article (as I usually do) with no reply. His view compelled me to refute his claims. I do not know Steve, and I do not know if he actually agrees with what he wrote. I am certain, however, that he new it would be a hot issue and a discussion starter. Well done. I joined the thread today because of fantastic blogging by Steve S. He posted something that he new would get us going, and good for him. If he had simply wrote about everything I was thinking I would have read the article (as I usually do) with no reply. His view compelled me to refute his claims. I do not know Steve, and I do not know if he actually agrees with what he wrote. I am certain, however, that he new it would be a hot issue and a discussion starter. Well done.

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