Comments on: Roy Halladay and the 2010 payroll

By: mph2373

mph2373 — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:09:57 +0000

Of course! Jackson and Duncan (? really?), and who else? If it was wrong to sign bad deals, it’s smart to continue that trend? I understand where you are coming from. The Yanks did this to themselves with this win or fail attitude.

Seriously look at what Boston has done. Forget Tampa. They sucked for over a decade and were able to draft top talent. We keep giving up position players for pitchers, when all we seem to really draft are pitchers.

Jackson may still K too much, but he’s listed as the best athlete in our system. Why not hold on to him?

Plus, if Doc doesn’t want to sign an extension now, you’re getting 1.5 years for Joba/Hughes, AJax, Montero, etc?

Yet we didn’t trade for Santana? A lefty who is also arguably one of the best in the game? I just don’t see this happening. Boston won’t get him because they won’t trade their prospects for 1.5 years of service. They also won’t want to pay Doc $25 million over the 5 year extension he will ultimately want.

Seriously, everyone take a break until Friday. Relax and let’s recharge for the second half.

Also, trade Cano? Replace him with Pena? Really?

By: Craig

Craig — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:18:32 +0000

First of all, since when does 29 career starts qualify as “extensive” experience? Asinine.

Second of all, do you realize how ferocious Montero could end up being? Obviously, there is risk and uncertainty with prospects, but that was also the case with Justin Upton, Hanley Ramirez, Grady Sizemore, Albert Pujols, etc. The kid is 19 years old, already devoured High-A and is now a AA All-Star (due to injury, but still impressive) and will be playing – probably starting – in the Futures Game. Oh yeah, and he plays catcher. I’m not including him in anything unless I get a top 10 position player in return.

By: Jacks

Jacks — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:38:23 +0000

look. Halladay makes you better, period. He is better than Joba, he is better than Pettite, and he is better than Wang. He will make AJ better, he will make Joba better. He can help you win this year and next year, etc. And you don’t want to give up prospects for him? I understand, you don’t give up Joba or Hughes. But I would send Jackson and Duncan for him in a heart beat and if you wouldn’t you need your head examined. The season is now. Not 5 years from now, NOW. You have to want to win now. and Halladay gives you that chance. Its your own fault for signing guys (AROD) to long stupid deals. Who wants a 41 year old ARod who can barely play a good 3rd base now. This team will end up being old and over paid soon enough, so why not go for it all now and do something to push yourself for this year. Make the trade.

By: Cosmo

Cosmo — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:03:05 +0000

The Yanks making a deal for Halliday is certainly an intriguing one .To say a pitcher is in his declining years at the ripe old age of 32 is speculative at best ,no reason to assume Halliday couldn’t continue being an effective pitcher for another 5-6 yrs.

Yanks untouchables:
Montero
Jackson
Hughes

although it is rumored Toronto might be willing to deal Rios to cut payroll ,so a package for Halliday and Rios is possible ,having said that a deal including Jackson ,Joba and Romine with maybe a top pitching prospect could seal the deal for the 2 .Rios would give them an above average RF so they wouldn’t have to shop for a FA for 2010 and of course Halliday would give them the best RH starter in baseball teamed with C.C.,A.J.,A.P. the best starting staff …

Toronto is not at all interested in Cano with Aaron Hill already at 2B.Trading Coke is absurd given how hard Girardi has worked to stabilize a shakey bullpen besides Toronto is loaded with lefty relievers.

By: DaveinMD

DaveinMD — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:08:31 +0000

Sure they would. Because they’d likely lose Joba in the deal.

By: Brian

Brian — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:07:27 +0000

Messed up before…..if the Yankees get Halladay they don’t need Hughes or Mitre to replace Pettitte in 2010

By: DaveinMD

DaveinMD — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:27:45 +0000

Montero is not a replaceable player. He’s probably our best hitting prospect since Mantle. He’s certainly our best prospect since Jeter. Sanchez isn’t even starting at GCL until next year. Montero is no the cusp of being here next year. And Cervelli is a backup. Nothing more.

Pena is not a replacement for Cano. He doesn’t hit anywhere near as well as him. You’ll lose a ton of production.

I like Melancon and Coke. But that’s not what’s keeping me from making the deal. Halladay is 32 years old. He’s entering his likely decline years. Giving up the farm for him is stupid.

By: dj1918

dj1918 — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:10:29 +0000

cano,coke,montero,mcalister
these are all replaceable players to at least some extent… pena plays second..bring up mark malanceon…we did jus sign gary sanchez and the emergence of cervellie….please guys before you say no to cano/postion player for doc/pitcher rember that us having doc makes us a world series fav. with out him we could be the sceond best team in the east

By: DaveinMD

DaveinMD — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:54:56 +0000

Do you give up Joba and Montero to get him. Because that is what it would take. I say hell no. I’d rather lose this year than mortgage our entire future.

By: jayd

jayd — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 00:52:48 +0000

1. Somebody with the best package is going to get him.

2. Obviously the Jays would prefer that somebody not be in their division.

3. But that preference goes away if the somebody has the best package.

4. Can the Yankees put together the best package? [Yes]

5. Will the best package harm their farm system? [Not necessarily]

6. Can they afford to let the Sawks get him? No (particularly this year).

7. Will the Sawks try? Yes

8. Why will the Sawks fail? Too cheap; overvalue their crappy players.

9. Why will the Phils Phail? Not enough talent; not enough money.

10. Who will give Halladay what he wants? The Yankees.

So Halladay becomes a Yankee.